some thoughts re: ptsd and politics

I am a personality that is open to all views politics why I’m bringing it up here.

Someone explain to me here please (feel like I will get an answer I will resonate with)

Why does it ’seem’ more spiritual people are democrat?  Huge generalization I know…but open to huge generalization answer :).

Also, like actors etc…democrat…why?

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  1. In CWG terms, it is because Republicans are in the illusion of “there’s not enough”, and are thus controlled by fear. Democrats are further into the understanding of “we are all One”, and less into the illusion of lack, and are thus more open to change.

    Broad strokes.

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  3. I observe that the more metaphysical & spiritual people are democrats about 85 % the other 15 more conservative.
    I note that in my Facebook group of around 160, many, in fact, most are Bernie Sanders fans. Many are CwGers.

    Blessings,
    -Marko

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    Bernie vs. Hillary why? again, just open to different perspectives…I am so not attached to anyone or any view …fyi…love an open conversation.

    Thanks Marko! Whats your new project?

  5. Bernie’s message is clear, AND he has been remarkably consistent in this message from the time he entered politics.

    Hillary has some of the same message, maybe even most of the same message, but people associate her with being part of the broken system…how can you regulate the banks/bankers if you are taking large campaign donations and speaking fees from them, for instance.

    Some think working within the system with Hillary is the way to change things.

    Others think it’s time to rip the bandaid off and just do it.

    Either is better, to me, than any of the Republican candidates.

  6. Mel…..(Spiritual people) Are you saying the new age folks?
    Because there are so many more spiritual people than in the new age.
    And they are basing their lives on ideas that have been given to them since they were little ones.
    Each party has blinders on and won’t see the reality for what it is. and each of them totally out of fear cannot abide with the other. More and more these days.
    I would say the reason dems are around is that they give folks stuff and ideological embrace everyone for a vote. if your not for them you’re absolutely against them are fair game to destroy..
    Repubs, are a rules group,who only let you in if you beleive what they do. but they are much more civil and until recently were pretty silent about things. accepting a higher power to succeed.
    I don’t beleive for one second that the difference between the parties is spirit. Just which one feels good to their sensibilities at that moments..

  7. Re: Therese,
    You actually used the word…….Better…….your judgement. Politics makes us choose crap.
    Nether is better or worst….just what works and what doesn’t and if you may have noticed the last few years has not been working!!!!!
    I’ll chance a thought…….the next 4 years are guaranteed to be absolutely painful how ever it turns out.
    Course I said that 8 years ago….How did that turn out.

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  9. Well, Michael, you left off saying that I used the word “Better” in the context of “to me”. I also made sure to note that I was only give quick, broad stroke, responses in my first posting. Further, I forgo being hyper specific about commonly used words with this group, which I consider understands that I understand there are more than one levels of many words.

    Politics doesn’t MAKE us choose anything. If you are going to nail me for my semantics, you must needs check your own, Michael. We are always at choice. Unfortunately, we consistently gave that choice to others for so long that we forgot we made that choice…hence the results we now see, but that does not mean that we can not choose again, now does it?

    Further, I must say that I very much disagree with your assessment of the party differences…it has, in my time on earth, been the Republicans who have yelled at me, and attempted to make me fearful of everything and not think for myself “or else”…or else the Communists would get me, or the Viet Cong, or the hippies or the liberals or or or, and, of course, in church I’m told that if I am not the perfect “patriot” I’m going to hell. There’s a big difference in the activism of the two groups as well. The fearful ones are VERY active in the name of keeping things the same as they have always been, the not fearful ones are looking at their neighbors around the world and next door and looking for the win-win. Hoard my wealth vs. share my wealth. Man has dominion vs. man has stewardship. Man is superior to women…God is a man…

    Regarding your descriptions of the parties and that last set of statements of yours…talk about judgment! and it’s all about perception, isn’t it? I happen to think that, despite serious handicaps, this president did a heck of a lot better than some think…and it turned out perfect. It perfectly pointed out and brought to light a whole SLEW of things that we were hiding in closets and under the rugs of our society. I happen to think that it perfectly gives us the opportunity to do something about it…start working together instead of as ego individuals. Start perfectly realizing that recognizing our Oneness does not mean giving up our uniqueness.

    So many perfect things! seen and unseen as of now…and in large part because of the chaos and comical meanderings of our political “leaders”!

    Now, Michael…those are MY perceptions. Your experience may have you come to other conclusions, of course, and I truly honor that, even while earnestly disagreeing.

    T.

  10. Mel, another thought just caught me. Your title “ptsd and politics”…
    YES! I think that we are very much caught up in a long bout of global ptsd, and global Stockholm syndrome!

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  12. So Therese,
    We agree to disagree. My opinion ( not fact) is we do see this thing from totally different points of view. and I will not get into a pissing contest about who’s right and wrong, just what has shown up.
    Your happy with the results and I’m not.
    So I hope (as master creators) to create, creations that will be way more wonderful than what is observed in this Now.
    Blessings and smiles always!!!

  13. Precious Michael…

    I am certainly not happy with all that is in this world today…but I AM happy.

    I see the perfection that is out there. I notice what is not working and work to use my “master creator” power to join with others (like you!) to make that “more wonderful” way a reality!

    We can do it!

    Yes, blessings and smiles always…

    T.

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